[The-Lacanalyst] Response to the Meeting on the title of the Analyst (11.5.25)

[Tate]

Dear Folks,

After the brief discussion yesterday morning, I reopened a few parentheses on
the  Freudian Thing in the U.S. and France. A paper I had been writing on for a
U.S. audience

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JNeYzuHTk-TaBiy3W-MbWX7vjy6Vgb17XcKNAu6ef7k/edit?usp=sharing

Anyone who cares to view or comment, the doc is open. I have also included Jacques response below.

Truly

Scully Robert G.

Ps -In response to Jacques' question below and for future reference:
 my first and family name is in the process of changing, from Robert to Scully Robert or just Scully.  Either is fine.

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> On Nov 5, 2025, at 10:32 PM, Jacques B. Siboni via The-lacanalyst <the-lacanalyst at lutecium.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert
> 
> (BTW how do you want to be called Robert? Scully? Tate?)
> 
> Thanks for the link to your paper, here are fast comments.
> 
> There is actually a major difference between France (and some other
> latin countries) and the USA (and the UK).
> 
> France's law is inspired by the Roman law and the Code Napoléon; US' law
> is inspired by the Common Law. The consequences are that US is using
> an accusation model and France an inquisition model. In the US I can
> accuse you of a fraud and go to trial (that's why PIs are so common
> in the US); in France I cannot accuse you of a fraud, I believe I have
> suffered of a fraud by you and therefore I transmit this belief as a
> complaint to the
> equivalent of your DA "le procureur de la République", then he is the one
> who will ask the police department to conduct an inquiry (Officier de
> police judiciaire). Then he will decide, looking at the conclusions of
> the police what to do with the complaint.
> 
> Now how does this impact the praxis of psychoanalysis in these two
> countries? In the US it is pretty easy to accuse you of a misconduct
> as long as I have the money to hire the services of a PI. In France
> the procureur will first evaluate if the complaint is private or public.
> 
> If I am the client of a psychologist the procureur will check if my
> psychologist has the legal right to practice his psychotherapy (diploma
> and so on). If I am the analysand of a psychoanalyst the procureur will
> automatically decide that this is a PRIVATE matter and that he has no
> right to intervene.
> 
> Suppose I submit the following complaint; my wife dumped a piece of furniture
> I loved without asking this first, If I submit this complaint to the
> procureur he will dump the complaint! This is the same for psychoanalysis.
> I heard a judge explaining that in the course of a divorce the couple
> wanted the judge to decide of the rhythm of lodging for the dog! A dog
> is part of the furniture it's private.
> 
> To conclude when we put forward the concept and signifier of lacanalysis
> we expect to be as close as possible as this official practice of
> psychoanalysis in France. Some kind of private practice.
> 
> Le psychanalyste ne s'autorise que de lui-même et de quelques autres.
> Psychoanalyst receives authorization from himself and from a few others
> (his analysands)
> 
> To the best
> 
> Jacques
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Response to the Meeting on the title of the Analyst (11.5.25)
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2025 20:46:14 -0800
> From: Tate <tate at netwood.net>
> To: Jacques B. Siboni <jacsib at lutecium.org>
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Folks,
> 
> Being inspired by the brief discussion this early morning, I reopened a few parentheses on
> the /Freudian Thing /in the U.S. and France that I had been writing on:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JNeYzuHTk-TaBiy3W-MbWX7vjy6Vgb17XcKNAu6ef7k/edit?usp=sharing
> 
> Anyone who cares to view or comment, the doc is open.
> 
> Truly
> 
> ScullyR.G.
> 
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