"it is really a stillborn thought to send women into the struggle for existence exactly as men. If for instance I imagined my gentle sweet girl as a competitor, it would only end in my telling her as I did 17 months ago, that I am fond of her and that I implore her to withdraw from the strife into the calm uncompetitive activity of my home.Nature has determined women's destiny through beauty, charm, and sweetness.Law and custom have much to give women that has been withheld from them, but the position of women will surely be what it is: in youth and adored darling, and in mature years a loved wife. Freud at 23 years pre-psychoanalytic emergence http://www.uwf.edu/smathews/documents/chapter5theoriesofgenderdevelopment.do... All progress is due to man. Therefore the woman is like a dead weight on him, she prevents much restlessness and meddlesome inquisitiveness, but she also restrains him from noble actions, for she is unable to distinguish good from evil (Mobius, 1901, p. 629). It is really a stillborn thought to send women into the struggle for existence exactly as men ... I believe that all reforming action in law and education would break down in front of the fact that, long before the age at which a man can earn a position in society, Nature has determined woman's destiny through beauty, charm, and sweetness, Law and custom have much to give women that has been withheld from them, but the position of women will surely be what is: in youth an adored darling and in mature years a loved wife (Freud, cited in Reeves, 1971, pp. 163-164.) http://www.viterbo.edu/psych.aspx?id=96 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalia Milopolsky-Costiou" <namicost at yahoo.fr> To: "Groupe de travail pour la psychanalyse lacanienne" <lutecium-group at lutecium.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: [Lutecium-group] Freud intime lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du Groupe de Travail Lutecium. --- Chers ami(e)s, Auriez-vous une intuition de quel ?crit (correspondance) de Freud peut faire partie l'extrait suivant: "It is really a stillborn thought to send women into the struggle for existence exactly as men. If, for instance, I imagined my sweet, gentle girl as a competitor? it would only end in my telling her, as I did seventeen months ago, that I am fond of her and that I implore her from the strife into the calm uncompetitive activity of my home." Je vous remercie par avance, Natalia Natalia Milopolsky-Costiou 36 rue Saint-Sulpice 75006 Paris 06 80 10 41 99 _______________________________________________ A question? click Help-Me at lutecium.org Lutecium-group mailing list Lutecium-group at lutecium.org http://cerium.lutecium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lutecium-group